In the ever-expanding universe of sports media, no stars are burning brighter than Jason and Travis Kelce. One, a recently retired and revered Philadelphia Eagles legend seamlessly transitioning into a sharp-witted ESPN analyst; the other, a reigning Super Bowl champion and arguably the most famous tight end on the planet. Together, their “New Heights” podcast has transcended the typical athlete-hosted show, evolving into a genuine cultural touchstone. In a recent, wide-ranging discussion, the brothers provided a startlingly clear window into the professional football ecosystem, from the raw psychology of a locker room to the humble gratitude that comes with staggering, unexpected fame.

The conversation ventured far beyond simple X’s and O’s, diving deep into the tribal, mentality-building tactics that forge championship teams. Travis, speaking from his current position within the Chiefs’ dynasty, pulled back the curtain on the acronyms and slogans that, while seeming juvenile to outsiders, are the lifeblood of team unity.

“Sometimes you just got to throw an acronym together, a slogan together, and get the team all under one understanding,” Travis explained, referencing slogans like “BAM” (Badass Motherfucker).

Jason, nodding in agreement, recalled his own time in the trenches and the power of a shared, aggressive mindset. He brought up a particularly potent acronym from his Cincinnati days: “DEFWU.”

“Don’t Ever Fuck With Us,” Jason said, translating the raw, unfiltered message. “The acronyms are always fun… you get a good one, throw it on a t-shirt, everybody’s fired up… when you get everybody to buy in, having fun with it, man, that’s what it’s there for.”

It’s this precise, unfiltered insight—the kind you only get from men who have lived it—that has made their podcast a juggernaut. But even as they dominate the media landscape, the brothers, particularly Jason, remain grounded in a way that feels almost alien in the modern world of celebrity.

The most striking example came when the conversation turned to the podcast’s own record-breaking success, specifically the episode that shattered the internet: their interview with Taylor Swift. That single episode, as of this publishing, has garnered a staggering 24 million views. When asked about this monumental achievement, Jason, the future Hall of Fame center, displayed a breathtaking humility.

He gave all the credit to his future sister-in-law. “Taylor killed it,” Jason stated simply.

He then dug deeper, revealing a genuine vulnerability and fear they felt in that moment. It wasn’t about views or clicks; it was about trust. “For her to trust us and to come on our show and release all that information to the world, to be as open as she was… the resounding sentiment from everybody was awesome to see,” Kelce said. “More importantly, we’re happy that it worked out. If that wouldn’t have worked out, we would have felt really bad.”

That admission—that two of the biggest names in sports felt a profound responsibility not to fail the trust of one of the biggest names in music—speaks volumes. It’s this combination of elite insight and genuine humanity that makes their content so compelling.

This humanity was a running theme, especially as Jason shifted into his new role as an analyst, breaking down the league’s recent games. He focused on the Philadelphia Eagles’ dominant 38-20 victory over the New York Giants, but his most profound insights were not about the box score. They were about the people.

He spoke at length about the devastating ankle injury to a Giants player, identified on the podcast as Cam Scataboo. What struck Jason was the reaction of the notoriously tough Philadelphia crowd at Lincoln Financial Field: they gave the opposing player a standing ovation as he was carted off.

“I’ve seen the Linc not handle opposing players getting injured well before,” Jason admitted, referencing his home crowd’s infamous reputation. “It was so apparent how much respect everybody in the NFL has for this guy… in such a short time to entrench herself with that much respect in this league just shows.”

This observation became a powerful lesson from the veteran. “I try and tell young players this all the time… if you just go out there and you play with reckless abandon… you will be loved in the sport of football,” Jason declared. “That requires zero talent. People love guys that just have relentless motors.”

It was a raw, passionate defense of the sport’s core values, a message from a man whose entire career was built on that very principle.

But Jason, the analyst, wasn’t done. He then pivoted to the technical side of the Eagles’ win, pinpointing the resurgence of the running game as the key. He celebrated the “huge” rushing touchdown by Saquon Barkley but focused his expert eye on an unsung hero: backup center Brett Toth. Toth, Jason explained, had been thrown into the Vikings game a week prior with no practice reps at center and, predictably, struggled.

“He bounced back, man,” Jason said with palpable pride, his voice rising. “He honestly was one of the best players up front… he had a bunch of crucial blocks.”

But Toth’s true value, as only a legendary center like Kelce would know, was in his mind. “He’s going to make sure the calls are right,” Jason explained, “and that is such a big part of having a backup going at center. Because if you’re not all on the same page, it’s not communicated well, it can make everything fall apart… You could see that those guys were in sync.”

While Jason provided the 30,000-foot view, Travis remained firmly on the ground, sharing the player’s perspective. He was all business when discussing his Chiefs, praising his own team’s defense for giving up “only seven points in the last eight quarters” and giving a special shout-out to fellow tight end Zach Ertz for hitting the 800-career-reception milestone.

“Everybody knows me and Z came in… 13 years ago, 2013,” Travis said, his voice thick with respect. “To see him still fucking doing it, man… I just cherish every fucking game I get to… compete against him.”

Travis’s focus was already narrowing to the next opponent: a “short week” game against the formidable Buffalo Bills, a team that “can score with the best of them.”

It is this perfect blend—the analyst’s mind and the player’s heart, the strategic breakdown and the emotional confession, the global fame and the locker-room grit—that has made the Kelce brothers the new kings of sports media. They are not just reporting on the game; they are shaping the narrative, offering a raw, honest, and deeply human look inside the world of professional football—a world they know better than anyone.