The View co-host Alyssa Farah Griffin made a bold declaration about Taylor Swift (several, actually) after the pop superstar released her 12th studio album, The Life of a Showgirl.

On the Saturday, Oct. 11 episode of The Weekend View, the hosts weighed in on the massive success of Swift’s album, which dropped on Oct. 3.

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“Taylor Swift has done it again,” Joy Behar, 83, said in a clip shared via Instagram. “Her latest album, The Life of a Showgirl was a record-breaking pop culture obsession from the day it was released this week. But apparently, Swifties are divided on this one. So what’s the issue, here?”

The co-hosts then turned to their resident Swiftie, Griffin, 36, to explain the situation.

“People pick everything apart. I love this album,” the former White House director of strategic communications and assistant to the president said. “People wanted to see Taylor Swift happy, and they wanted old-school Taylor bops. And that’s what it is, through and through. Such fun songs.”

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Griffin continued, “I think the lyricism is fantastic. I think it also shows her just in the happiest place in life she’s probably ever been in. And she does get a little dirty in it, which I like.”

“She’s 35 years old and engaged,” she pointed out of Swift and her NFL fiancé, Travis Kelce. “She’s allowed to talk about sex. That is a fact.”

To that, Ana Navarro, 53, pointed out, “This is like goodie two-shoes, white people dirty. If you listen to Cardi B or you listen to Megan Thee Stallion or you listen to Pitbull, it’s like a nursery rhyme.”

After Behar suggested that Swift’s “persona is rather virginal,” Griffin disagreed.

“It is such a misconception,” she aid. “She has been making albums throughout her adult life that are sexual and about relationships. It’s not new. But what is incredible about this album, even if you don’t like her music, you have to just respect how hard she works.”

Griffin then pointed out that Swift has released three record-breaking albums in “basically four years,” plus a record-breaking Eras Tour and an Eras Tour movie, as well as a Life of a Showgirl release party film.

Additionally, the View hosts brought up Swift’s double-entendre-filled track “Wood.” In the post-chorus, she sings: “Forgive me, it sounds cocky / He ah-matized me and opened my eyes / Redwood tree, it ain’t hard to see / His love was the key that opened my thighs.”