Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce might just be the most watched couple in pop culture right now. With Swift being a global music icon and Kelce a Super Bowl-winning NFL star, they’ve managed to create a romance that feels straight out of a rom-com — but one that’s just as captivating in real life. Recently, the couple made their first joint appearance on the “New Heights” podcast, which Travis co-hosts with his brother, Jason Kelce. The podcast offered fans an unfiltered peek into their relationship, revealing everything from their unique quirks to the challenges of being in the public eye. Here are the top 7 things we learned about Taylor and Travis from their chat, and trust us, they’re as surprising as they are heartwarming.

1. The Podcast Confession That Started It All

Before they were Taylor and Travis, there was just one guy on a mic shooting his shot. Two years ago, Travis used his own podcast as the platform to tell the world he wanted to date Taylor Swift. The move was bold, but what really caught Taylor’s attention was the directness of it all. “It was such a wild romantic gesture to just be like, ‘I want to date you,’” Taylor said, admitting that she was intrigued by Travis’ honesty. She joked, “He thought he could talk to the elevator lady about getting down to my dressing room,” making it clear that Travis’ charm had no limits, even if his logistical planning left something to be desired.

2. Laughing Off the Hype

Being in one of the world’s most talked-about relationships comes with a constant stream of theories, opinions, and relentless gossip. But both Taylor and Travis have learned how to handle the noise. Taylor, who’s been in the music industry for over 20 years, said it’s pretty tough to hurt her feelings at this point. “It’s a point where my name can be in the actual headline and it can still be none of my business,” she said, revealing how she’s learned to block out unnecessary noise. Travis added, “There’s still some wacko theories from the beginning that I was like, ‘Oh no, how is she handling this?’” It’s clear that this couple knows how to manage the overwhelming attention and keep things grounded.

3. Pop Stardom is Basically Pro Sports Without the Tackles

If you think performing at a stadium is less demanding than playing in the NFL, think again. Travis was quick to notice the similarities between their professions. “I saw the recovery station in the hotel room after the show to spacers. The similarities were crazy. I was like, ‘Oh my gosh, she does more than I do,’” Travis said. Taylor Swift, who is known for her intense preparation, revealed that she preps for her tours by running on a treadmill while singing her entire setlist. “I’m not getting hit by huge 300-pounders, but the heels!” Taylor joked, clearly aware of the physical challenges of performing at the top of her game.

4. Taylor Took the Most Personal Approach to Buy Back Her Masters

Taylor Swift’s journey to regain control of her first six albums is well known, but what fans may not have realized is how personal her fight for her masters was. Instead of sending a team of lawyers or managers, Taylor sent her mother and brother to negotiate with Shamrock Capital. “They told them what this meant for me. They told them the whole story of all the times we tried to buy it, all the times it’s fallen through,” she shared, tearing up as she recalled the emotional experience. The deal finally went through, and when her mom told her the news, Taylor dramatically collapsed in tears, running to Travis to cry in his arms.

5. Easter Eggs Are For the Music, Not the Gossip

Swifties are notorious for dissecting every Easter egg in Taylor’s work, but she made it clear that these hidden clues are always related to her music, not her personal life. “I’m never going to plan an Easter egg that ties back to my personal life. It’s always going to be towards music,” Taylor explained. She loves hiding clues in speeches, videos, and social posts, like her NYU commencement speech, which was packed with hints about her album Midnights. While fans may be reading between the lines, Taylor is still staying focused on what matters most — her music.

6. Sourdough Is Their Love Language

Forget about fancy date nights or expensive gifts. For Taylor and Travis, it’s all about sourdough bread. Taylor confessed that she’s “on sourdough blogs,” becoming an active member of a community dedicated to the art of bread baking. “I’m really talking about bread 60% of the time,” Taylor said with a laugh. Travis chimed in, joking that plenty of people hope Taylor will comment on their baking posts. “Oh, I’m on your blog, girl. I’m on your blog,” Taylor replied, proving just how much they’ve embraced this simple, down-to-earth hobby together.

7. Travis Has a Soft Spot for Otters

In between all the bread talk, Travis shared his obsession with otters. And it’s not just a passing fancy — Travis has a full-on rescue fantasy. “I want a wild otter so bad. I just want to find these little creatures and be their friend,” he revealed. He even imagined a long-term friendship with an otter, bringing it anchovies every few months. Taylor, laughing, explained, “He wants one specifically whose life he saved and who knows he saved its life.”

Conclusion: A Perfect Match

Despite their very different professional lives, Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce are a perfect match in energy, humor, and shared passions. Whether they’re dealing with the public’s obsession with their relationship or bonding over sourdough bread and otter videos, it’s clear that they have a rhythm that works for them. From epic career wins to quiet nights spent baking, Taylor and Travis seem to be enjoying every moment of their journey together, making their fans feel like they’re part of the ride.