I didn’t think there was a big problem. I you know, I just saw it as distortion on the part of some of the right wing media networks. And I was, I aimed to correct it. I have problems, like all the time. And it’s kind of funny because sometimes you think, oh, this is not a problem. And then it turns into a big problem and then sometimes it goes the other way where you think like, oh, this is going to be a problem and nobody really notices.

 And so at what point did you realize this was a problem? I think when when they pulled the show off the air. Right. Well, that’s unusual. Yeah. And what were the conversations that, Dana and Bob, that led to that? I hate to disappoint you, but they were really good conversations. I’m not asking for you to… I mean, like, really good conversations.

They are. These are people that I’ve known for a long time and who I like very much and who were, you know, who wanted, we all wanted this to work out best. And I will tell you, like, I mean, first of all, I ruined Dana’s weekend. It was just nonstop phone calls all weekend.

 But I don’t think what, I don’t think the result, which I think turned out to be very positive, would have been as positive if I hadn’t talked to Dana as much as I did, because it helped me think everything through and it helped me just kind of understand where everyone was coming from. I can sometimes be reactionary, I can sometimes be aggressive, and I can sometimes be unpleasant.

And I think that it helped me really having those days to think about it was helpful. Okay. But I have a dumb question about this. As someone who is kind of reporting on it in real time, trying to figure out what’s happening. So the show goes off the air. You have all these conversations and when you made it or when you all made a decision, put the show back on the air, as my understanding at the time was it still wasn’t exactly clear what you were going to say.

 They still hadn’t resolved the issues with the affiliates. So what are the, what do you resolve in those conversations, too, to know you’re going back if you haven’t figured out a lot of the things that come out of it? I think just the spirit of what I’m going to say rather than specifically what I was going to say. And I think that’s something that we all agreed on.

And I think that ultimately I wanted to kind of cover every base, if I could. And sometimes you can do that and sometimes you can’t do that. And it was something really that had to come from inside me. It had to be truthful. And I had to lay it all out there and just be honest about what I was feeling and what I’d experienced. And I think I did.

And I think that it probably went about as well as it could go. I knew that it wasn’t going to be perfect, and there were always going to be people that didn’t like it and didn’t accept it. But the important thing to me was that I was able to explain what I was saying, what I was trying to say. Because you felt like your initial comments had been mischaracterized.

I didn’t feel it… They were. It was intentionally and I think maliciously mischaracterized. Yeah.